if we were to try that or attempt that in this environment, forget about whether we reach a deal by the end of the year on the so-called cliff, that is what will send the world spendg into recession. my thoughts. >> first of all, we don't have the money to pay for the past two deficits. i don't believe weevil have the money for the current spending related to sandy. there's not a tax for that, pretty sure. to the point to have the additional costs which would have to be hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars, where's that's coming from? less they use taxes on fuels to be the solution, that, at least, in theory, does not cost the government money. it doesn't mean it passes or ve other effects. neil: cost money? >> not economy, but it will not look like they need o spend to solve the problem if that's the way it goes. neil: [inaudible] >> yeah, we're broke. we're turn your pockets inside out, it's over. no money. neil: you got the point across. thank you, both, very much. washington, we have a problem. don't think so? here's it's straight from the real guys behind this, after this.